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MinPoly over QQ: verification may be very slow

Added by Anna Maria Bigatti about 6 years ago. Updated over 5 years ago.

Status:
Closed
Priority:
Normal
Category:
Improving
Target version:
Start date:
12 Mar 2018
Due date:
% Done:

100%

Estimated time:
7.70 h
Spent time:

Description

The verification step after the modular algorithm may be very slow.
On the other side it is easy to construct examples on which MinPolyHeuristic fails (despite very unlikely in general).
Investigate on how to make a faster verification.


Related issues

Related to CoCoALib - Feature #1167: New class VerificationLevelClosed2018-03-13

Related to CoCoALib - Bug #1101: Bug in MinPolyModular (insufficient rational reconstruction)Closed2017-09-11

History

#1 Updated by Anna Maria Bigatti about 6 years ago

  • % Done changed from 0 to 10

An impressive example is given by 87 points in QQ^3.
MinPoly takes ~4s and the verification take 44s on my Mac.

Improvement in doing NF at every Horner step instead of every second step. (used to be ~80s)

#2 Updated by Anna Maria Bigatti about 6 years ago

Tried with TwinFloat: good for the 87 points (10 times faster) bad for example QQ-rand (10 times slower)

#3 Updated by Anna Maria Bigatti about 6 years ago

  • Assignee set to Anna Maria Bigatti
  • % Done changed from 10 to 70

After many many experiments, code is settled as this:
- MinPolyQuot(f, I, x) makes the complete verification (over QQ)
- MinPolyQuot(f, I, x, N) makes N verifications mod N random primes ~2*10^9

(N in CoCoA-5 is an integer, and in CoCoALib is a VerificationLevel)

With 3 primes takes < 1s in all examples from "UsingMinPoly"

#4 Updated by Anna Maria Bigatti about 6 years ago

#5 Updated by Anna Maria Bigatti about 6 years ago

  • Related to Bug #1101: Bug in MinPolyModular (insufficient rational reconstruction) added

#6 Updated by Anna Maria Bigatti about 6 years ago

Working well, but now this should also be accessible by IsRadical, IsMaximal,...
Think well before doing this!!

#7 Updated by Anna Maria Bigatti over 5 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Feedback
  • % Done changed from 70 to 90

#8 Updated by John Abbott over 5 years ago

  • Status changed from Feedback to Closed
  • % Done changed from 90 to 100
  • Estimated time changed from 10.00 h to 7.70 h

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